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>>【 在 maradukkha 的大作中提到: 】
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>>Can I please ask:-
>>1. What is your brother’s background? Has he finished his bachelor degree? what kind of degree has he finished and what is his interest?
>技院畢.可能會選擇資訊.電子.電機方面~
>>2. Does he want to do an Engineering degree? a Science, A Medicine, a Business or a Law degree?
>工程方面.但我們不曉得這方面在澳大是屬哪個學位~
>
不知是不是computer science?
不過中間又分telecommunication, 設計program......等等 (我也不太懂)
所以還是上各學校網上找science/ engineering faculty
畢竟各學校分的粗細和系名叫法都會有所不同
>>5. After finished his study, does he want to go back to Taiwan or stay at Australia? Or work/study at another country?
>皆可
>不過家人希望他能回來就回來
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若讀碩士一年半可能無法辦移民澳
因為去年7月移民局規定
若要獨立技術移民的碩士應屆畢業生需成功的修滿2年整課程
不過computer science, MIS...等相關科
基本分是比較高的
>>By the way, if your brother wants to type Chinese character here, bring a Chinese Keyboard.
>
>此間無中文鍵盤 ㄅㄆㄇㄈ也忘的差不多了 所以中打慢 每分鐘只有1–2 字 有時便打英文 敬請見諒
>
>沒關係~只是我的英文很破
>閱讀時滿吃力 不過這樣才有機會學習英文
>有些句子有可能不是單字拼一拼就能達到該句的意思~^^~
>
不過去澳讀書
若沒有長待的打算
買部手提電腦是比較方便的
打印機在那買即可 (學校會有前輩貼賣二手的)
>謝謝大家提供的經驗 謝謝!!
>【 在 maradukkha 的大作中提到: 】
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>Can I please ask:-
>1. What is your brother’s background? Has he finished his bachelor degree? what kind of degree has he finished and what is his interest?
技院畢.可能會選擇資訊.電子.電機方面~
>2. Does he want to do an Engineering degree? a Science, A Medicine, a Business or a Law degree?
工程方面.但我們不曉得這方面在澳大是屬哪個學位~
>3. Does he want to do a doctorate? A doctorate is the highest degree a university can award.
目前目標先放在碩士~
>4. Why does he want to go back to university and study?
工作後覺得想要再增廣見聞
也有可能身邊的朋友有幾個都到國外讀書影響
最重要的幕後推手~老爸 希望他趁年輕 能多到外走走、學習
>5. After finished his study, does he want to go back to Taiwan or stay at Australia? Or work/study at another country?
皆可
不過家人希望他能回來就回來
>
>He should be gainfully working at the age of 27. Stop working at this age and goes back to study is very costly. He should deserve get the most of his money and time invested in this study process.
>
這個我不知如何回答
看他怎麼想~
>There are lots of different postgraduate degrees offered by Australian Universities. Only 3 are recognized by Taiwanese government. They are:- Master’s by COURSEWORK (碩士學位學分班), Master’s by RESEARCH (碩士學位研究班), Doctorate (博士學位).
>
>碩士學位學分班 takes shorter time to complete (normally 1 1/2 - 2 years). Your chance to finish it is high. If you want to work in industry after your study, you are recommended to do it. Some of my friends only finished專科 and get accepted into 莫爾本大學會計碩士學位學分班. I believe莫爾本大學會計碩士學位學分班 are trying to take as many students as possible.
>
>碩士學位研究班 takes longer (2 -2- 1/2 years). Do this if and only if you want to do博士學位 after your 碩士學位.
>
>博士學位 is the longest (3-5 years). Some of my friends are fighting in their 10th year. Very few students can sustain such a prolonged stress so that the drop out rate (休/退學率) is as high as 50%. You are recommended to do it if and only if you want to be a researcher/professor.
>
>Mara was doing a Ph.D. (博士學位). This is my 3rd year in the course and I published some Journal and conferences papers (1 Journal and 6 conferences papers). However, My supervisor thinks I am NOT capable of awarding a PhD so that he forces me to submit my Thesis as a Master’s Thesis (碩士論文), suspend my scholarship and resigned as my supervisor. I am not alone. Some other students are like so. I am sure you do not want to waste your time like this.
>
>
>By the way, if your brother wants to type Chinese character here, bring a Chinese Keyboard.
此間無中文鍵盤 ㄅㄆㄇㄈ也忘的差不多了 所以中打慢 每分鐘只有1–2 字 有時便打英文 敬請見諒
沒關係~只是我的英文很破
閱讀時滿吃力 不過這樣才有機會學習英文
有些句子有可能不是單字拼一拼就能達到該句的意思~^^~
謝謝大家提供的經驗 謝謝!!
又來插嘴一下......
>【 在 maradukkha 的大作中提到: 】
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>There are lots of different postgraduate degrees offered by Australian Universities. Only 3 are recognized by Taiwanese government. They are:- Master’s by COURSEWORK (碩士學位學分班), Master’s by RESEARCH (碩士學位研究班), Doctorate (博士學位).
>
>碩士學位學分班 takes shorter time to complete (normally 1 1/2 - 2 years). Your chance to finish it is high. If you want to work in industry after your study, you are recommended to do it. Some of my friends only finished專科 and get accepted into 莫爾本大學會計碩士學位學分班. I believe莫爾本大學會計碩士學位學分班 are trying to take as many students as possible.
>
其實有些大陸人都拼在1年內完成course work的學業 (一學期修四科)
一般coruse work 的課程一學期至少要take三科(因為移民局怕你目的不在留學而在打工), 除非是最後一學期
我想專科畢業直攻碩士還是要補學分吧!
我聽我室友(銘傳三專畢)和她學妹(銘傳大學畢)說
她們跟她們的系爭的頭破血流
卻都還是要補學分
當然我室友補的比她學妹多 (多讀一年)
所以應該看系裡的規定吧..............
>碩士學位研究班 takes longer (2 -2- 1/2 years). Do this if and only if you want to do博士學位 after your 碩士學位.
>
不一定喔........
我有一個印尼的同學
研一第一學期跟我們一起讀
第二學期就轉去做research了
問她
那不是要讀更久
她說要看論文寫的情況
結果一年後就升了phd班
>博士學位 is the longest (3-5 years). Some of my friends are fighting in their 10th year. Very few students can sustain such a prolonged stress so that the drop out rate (休/退學率) is as high as 50%. You are recommended to do it if and only if you want to be a researcher/professor.
>
這是真的
我看到3個讀phd的台灣人
一個數學系的, 現在邁入第七年
一個語言學系的, 現在邁入第六年 (聽說只有上洗手間和去學校才出房門)
一個護理系的, 現已休學
>>>不用考托福了嗎?!
>Australian University uses IELTS rather than托福. I never sit for IELTS or 托福 exams and I think it is not a problem.
若不考上面兩考試
進語言班時還是要考英文能力考試才能幫你分班
一般IELTS 5分-5.5分(總分和寫.讀)
才能分進academic的正式班
>For碩士學位學分班, you are expected to be able to:
>1. do oral presentation,
>2. read and understand lecturer notes
>3. read and understand exam questions. And more importantly, write, and let examiner understand your English writing.
>
>
要看科系哦!
我的系除了上面所說
每一科都要交一兩篇1500-3000的essay
所以修三科時真的都不用睡覺:P
考試每題都要寫短的essay
presentation還有一個人講一節課給大家問一節課的
現在想想當時真不知怎麼過來的
>A good Reference is: The Australia Good University Guide
>http://www.thegoodguides.com.au/gateway-nm2.cfm
>Moreover, apply scholarship if your brother is a good student. Try "overseas scholarship” or “overseas student scholarship” at every Australian university. This is very Very VERY competitive scholarship, but still, someone gets that every year.
>
這好像蠻難的
目前我所聽過的
只有一個台大經濟系碩士的人拿到
我們班的高材生
系主任給她獎學金求她讀phd
結果學校administration死都不發 :(
Can I please ask:-
1. What is your brother’s background? Has he finished his bachelor degree? what kind of degree has he finished and what is his interest?
2. Does he want to do an Engineering degree? a Science, A Medicine, a Business or a Law degree?
3. Does he want to do a doctorate? A doctorate is the highest degree a university can award.
4. Why does he want to go back to university and study?
5. After finished his study, does he want to go back to Taiwan or stay at Australia? Or work/study at another country?
He should be gainfully working at the age of 27. Stop working at this age and goes back to study is very costly. He should deserve get the most of his money and time invested in this study process.
There are lots of different postgraduate degrees offered by Australian Universities. Only 3 are recognized by Taiwanese government. They are:- Master’s by COURSEWORK (碩士學位學分班), Master’s by RESEARCH (碩士學位研究班), Doctorate (博士學位).
碩士學位學分班 takes shorter time to complete (normally 1 1/2 - 2 years). Your chance to finish it is high. If you want to work in industry after your study, you are recommended to do it. Some of my friends only finished專科 and get accepted into 莫爾本大學會計碩士學位學分班. I believe莫爾本大學會計碩士學位學分班 are trying to take as many students as possible.
碩士學位研究班 takes longer (2 -2- 1/2 years). Do this if and only if you want to do博士學位 after your 碩士學位.
博士學位 is the longest (3-5 years). Some of my friends are fighting in their 10th year. Very few students can sustain such a prolonged stress so that the drop out rate (休/退學率) is as high as 50%. You are recommended to do it if and only if you want to be a researcher/professor.
Mara was doing a Ph.D. (博士學位). This is my 3rd year in the course and I published some Journal and conferences papers (1 Journal and 6 conferences papers). However, My supervisor thinks I am NOT capable of awarding a PhD so that he forces me to submit my Thesis as a Master’s Thesis (碩士論文), suspend my scholarship and resigned as my supervisor. I am not alone. Some other students are like so. I am sure you do not want to waste your time like this.
By the way, if your brother wants to type Chinese character here, bring a Chinese Keyboard.此間無中文鍵盤 ㄅㄆㄇㄈ也忘的差不多了 所以中打慢 每分鐘只有1–2 字 有時便打英文 敬請見諒
>>意思是只要有財力證明提供給學校就可以就讀嗎?（那~財力要多”雄厚”）
You need to prepare Living expenses + tuition fee. Mara is very Very VERY STINGY but still need to spend around NT$300-350K a year for LIVING here at Melbourne. The living expense should be slightly higher at Sydney.
>>不用考托福了嗎?!
Australian University uses IELTS rather than托福. I never sit for IELTS or 托福 exams and I think it is not a problem. For碩士學位學分班, you are expected to be able to:
1. do oral presentation,
2. read and understand lecturer notes
3. read and understand exam questions. And more importantly, write, and let examiner understand your English writing.
(^__^There is a joke about Mara’s French:- I have no problem with my French, but the French does, ===> Mara可以了解自己的法文 但是法國人不能了解Mara的法文 -__-‘’’)
>其實平均來說
>澳洲最好的大學是墨爾本大學
>在NSW州的大學第一是新南威爾斯大學
>其次才是雪梨大學
>不過澳洲當地高中生考大學
>則是以科系排名為依歸
>例如: (NSW地區)醫是雪梨大學第一,商.大傳是麥覺理大學最好(不包括MBA), 理工是臥龍岡大學有名...等等而新南威爾斯大學是平均都很不錯
>
>雪梨大學之所以在台灣有名
>是因為台灣人都比較有聽過雪梨這地方啦
>想當然雪梨大學會很top了
>
A good Reference is: The Australia Good University Guide
http://www.thegoodguides.com.au/gateway-nm2.cfm
Moreover, apply scholarship if your brother is a good student. Try "overseas scholarship” or “overseas student scholarship” at every Australian university. This is very Very VERY competitive scholarship, but still, someone gets that every year.
>當地人種族歧視嚴重
>要視情況而定
What is your experience, rebel,
我的經驗是
>>【 在 maradukkha 的大作中提到: 】
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>>1.如何選擇在海外具服務性較強的代辦中心?
>>Which country do u want to study at?
>
>澳洲或紐西蘭
>
代辦都是只要錢
若你有認識英文好的人
請他們直接寫e-mail跟學校要資料
至於抵學分事宜
則直接要去系裡談
>>2.沒考托福 外語很破 想讀研究所有哪些途徑?
>>What do u want to study in? A Master's by COURSEWORK is very easy to get in, as long as you have money. For example, Melbourne University's Master's of Accounting by COURSEWORK takes students without bachelor degree.
>>
>>If you do NOT want to do a PhD, (Doctorate), I suggest you do a Master's by COURSEWORK.
>>If you want to continue until your doctorate, you have to do a Master's by RESEARCH.
>
>意思是只要有財力證明提供給學校就可以就讀嗎?（那~財力要多”雄厚”）
>不用考托福了嗎?!
>
>不好意思 上列(2.)兩段完整意思看不是很懂
>
>
如果你要讀好學校
當然是要有IELTS或托福的成績
不過有些學校你可參加他們的語言班
等它規定的語言班level考試.作業.簡報....等等都過關時
就有機會可直升course work的碩士班
致於research的碩士班申請可就比照美國那些直攻博士申請法
除非
你己在澳讀大學部或讀course work 時成績都在credit以上
就可直接在系上申請
>>3.留學學費.科系.花費時間(年).選擇住宿.餐飲.休閒方式及所需花費金額台幣約多少?
>
在各校網站上查的到學費等
至於個人花費則要看個人的消費習慣
>>What country do you want to study in?
>澳洲
>
>what University? which course?
>
>有人建議雪梨大學 說要念就要念最好的
>沒有一定知名度 回來找工作會有困難
>而且有一定程度的學校 設備及資源會比較豐富
>
>不過雪梨大學聽起來 就像台大一樣難擠、難念的感覺 ~@@
>>
其實平均來說
澳洲最好的大學是墨爾本大學
在NSW州的大學第一是新南威爾斯大學
其次才是雪梨大學
不過澳洲當地高中生考大學
則是以科系排名為依歸
例如: (NSW地區)醫是雪梨大學第一,商.大傳是麥覺理大學最好(不包括MBA), 理工是臥龍岡大學有名...等等而新南威爾斯大學是平均都很不錯
雪梨大學之所以在台灣有名
是因為台灣人都比較有聽過雪梨這地方啦
想當然雪梨大學會很top了
>>4.如何自我照顧、生活?留學生間如何照應?
>
>>How old are you?
>我老弟要念的(27歲)
>
>>have you ever stay away from your parents and family?
>弟一直住家裡沒離鄉或父母過，他個性還算獨立，有時稍微被動些。
> If so, you should be ok. University normally has a special centre for overseas students.
>了解
>>
照妳弟的年紀
應該是去了就什麼都會了
不會像小小留學生易學壞
>>5.素食如何解決?
>>The best is cook yourself. If you can not, you need to buy. It is more expensive and unconvenient.
>我弟只會泡麵和用電鍋煮白飯，現在要開始特訓。
>那邊的市場應該也會有特賣或比較便宜的東西吧？！
>
自己煮最好又便宜
>
>>7.從哪些管道可知所選學校 在台是具教育部認可
>>check the Department of Education, Taiwan. www.edu.tw
>了解。
>
一般國立的都會接受
而澳洲大學不多, 好像只有一所是私立的
記得畢業時
拿證書
在澳先去澳洲外交貿易部公證
再去雪梨駐台北經濟辦事處公證
回台後
先去英翻中
再去外交部蓋鋼印
最後拿去法院公證即可
>>8.如果從台灣攜帶電器用品 是否需電器在台購買文件(如net-book)
>>which country do you want to go?
>澳洲或紐西蘭
> really depends. This is not a big problem.
>
我沒有帶耶.....
>>9.留學間遇到棘手或困難時 如何解決
>>Moneywise, better prepare for it. For study/life problems, University has Consultant.
要看什麼問題
>學校的顧問中心要收費嗎？
>
不用
不過好像答的多是學業上的問題
>>10.出入境時有沒有比較難搞的海關
>>Normally do NOT. I had experience deal with the custom of Taiwan, Australia, Singapore, and New Zealand. Among those, Australian custom is harder, but normally you will be ok as long as you are legal.
>了解
>
是的
只要你不違反報關單上的規定
>>11.與當地人相處時要注意哪些?
>>Which country r u going? normally you will be respected as long as you pay respect to others.
>了解
>
當地人種族歧視嚴重
要視情況而定
>>12.目前臺灣(政府)有哪些便民留學資訊服務中心?
>>Check Departmetn of Education, Taiwan. www.edu.tw
>了解
>
澳洲的學校可上
www.idp.com.tw
這是澳洲的大學們共同在台灣的代理
其他可上
中華民國留學全球資訊網
或上各大學bbs的留學板...等等
感謝scwei.maradukkha村民提供的資訊 謝謝!!
>【 在 maradukkha 的大作中提到: 】
>
>1.如何選擇在海外具服務性較強的代辦中心?
>Which country do u want to study at?
澳洲或紐西蘭
>2.沒考托福 外語很破 想讀研究所有哪些途徑?
>What do u want to study in? A Master's by COURSEWORK is very easy to get in, as long as you have money. For example, Melbourne University's Master's of Accounting by COURSEWORK takes students without bachelor degree.
>
>If you do NOT want to do a PhD, (Doctorate), I suggest you do a Master's by COURSEWORK.
>If you want to continue until your doctorate, you have to do a Master's by RESEARCH.
意思是只要有財力證明提供給學校就可以就讀嗎?（那~財力要多”雄厚”）
不用考托福了嗎?!
不好意思 上列(2.)兩段完整意思看不是很懂
>3.留學學費.科系.花費時間(年).選擇住宿.餐飲.休閒方式及所需花費金額台幣約多少?
>What country do you want to study in?
澳洲
what University? which course?
有人建議雪梨大學 說要念就要念最好的
沒有一定知名度 回來找工作會有困難
而且有一定程度的學校 設備及資源會比較豐富
不過雪梨大學聽起來 就像台大一樣難擠、難念的感覺 ~@@
>
>4.如何自我照顧、生活?留學生間如何照應?
>How old are you?
我老弟要念的(27歲)
>have you ever stay away from your parents and family?
弟一直住家裡沒離鄉或父母過，他個性還算獨立，有時稍微被動些。
If so, you should be ok. University normally has a special centre for overseas students.
了解
>
>5.素食如何解決?
>The best is cook yourself. If you can not, you need to buy. It is more expensive and unconvenient.
我弟只會泡麵和用電鍋煮白飯，現在要開始特訓。
那邊的市場應該也會有特賣或比較便宜的東西吧？！
>6.當初留學時 如何選擇留學方式及代辦中心?
>I came here and apply. You can apply directly to the University and University prefers so. More money goes into Uni's account.
那需要多少財力，學校才能接受，又要如何自己申請。
如果需要夠”雄厚”的財力，我們這種小老百姓可能沒辦法讀了。
>7.從哪些管道可知所選學校 在台是具教育部認可
>check the Department of Education, Taiwan. www.edu.tw
了解。
>8.如果從台灣攜帶電器用品 是否需電器在台購買文件(如net-book)
>which country do you want to go?
澳洲或紐西蘭
really depends. This is not a big problem.
>9.留學間遇到棘手或困難時 如何解決
>Moneywise, better prepare for it. For study/life problems, University has Consultant.
學校的顧問中心要收費嗎？
>10.出入境時有沒有比較難搞的海關
>Normally do NOT. I had experience deal with the custom of Taiwan, Australia, Singapore, and New Zealand. Among those, Australian custom is harder, but normally you will be ok as long as you are legal.
了解
>11.與當地人相處時要注意哪些?
>Which country r u going? normally you will be respected as long as you pay respect to others.
了解
>12.目前臺灣(政府)有哪些便民留學資訊服務中心?
>Check Departmetn of Education, Taiwan. www.edu.tw
了解
1.如何選擇在海外具服務性較強的代辦中心?
Which country do u want to study at?
2.沒考托福 外語很破 想讀研究所有哪些途徑?
What do u want to study in? A Master's by COURSEWORK is very easy to get in, as long as you have money. For example, Melbourne University's Master's of Accounting by COURSEWORK takes students without bachelor degree.
If you do NOT want to do a PhD, (Doctorate), I suggest you do a Master's by COURSEWORK.
If you want to continue until your doctorate, you have to do a Master's by RESEARCH.
3.留學學費.科系.花費時間(年).選擇住宿.餐飲.休閒方式及所需花費金額台幣約多少?
What country do you want to study in? what University? which course?
4.如何自我照顧、生活?留學生間如何照應?
How old are you? have you ever stay away from your parents and family? If so, you should be ok. University normally has a special centre for overseas students.
5.素食如何解決?
The best is cook yourself. If you can not, you need to buy. It is more expensive and unconvenient.
6.當初留學時 如何選擇留學方式及代辦中心?
I came here and apply. You can apply directly to the University and University prefers so. More money goes into Uni's account.
7.從哪些管道可知所選學校 在台是具教育部認可
check the Department of Education, Taiwan. www.edu.tw
8.如果從台灣攜帶電器用品 是否需電器在台購買文件(如net-book)
which country do you want to go? really depends. This is not a big problem.
9.留學間遇到棘手或困難時 如何解決
Moneywise, better prepare for it. For study/life problems, University has Consultant.
10.出入境時有沒有比較難搞的海關
Normally do NOT. I had experience deal with the custom of Taiwan, Australia, Singapore, and New Zealand. Among those, Australian custom is harder, but normally you will be ok as long as you are legal.
11.與當地人相處時要注意哪些?
Which country r u going? normally you will be respected as long as you pay respect to others.
12.目前臺灣(政府)有哪些便民留學資訊服務中心?
Check Departmetn of Education, Taiwan. www.edu.tw
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